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Ok folks, here is what I was saying in English;

I think it would be nice to have another option for fishing trips to the Rio Negro Amazonas.

Booking a trip, often a year in advance and being tied to that specific week can be terriable when water levels do not cooperate.

As most know the Old Rio Negro Lodge Hotel on the middle Negro is re-opening with new ownership soon and perhaps we may have other options.

I would love to be able to pick up the phone and call the fishing manager and talk to someone about the week and fishing conditions when ever I chose to do that.

If fishing was to my liking then I would like to be able to reserve the days which I want instantly and me and my fishing friends could get a flight from where ever into Manaus the following day or week?

Several local air charter planes could get me from Edwardo-Gomaz into the air port at my hotel that same day and we could be fishing from a bass-boat the same day.

I could stay and fish or relax for what ever days I choose then leave.

That way I am not stuck to a predetermined scedule when fishing is bad for whatever reason.

I & several friends would be happy to pay a slight premium hotel & hosting rate in order to be in control of when, and how my fishing trip is done.

Just a hotel ran like a hotel with a capacity to accomidate fishermen from Sept thru Mar???????? And hopefully at a reasonable rate.

YES some might say fishing the head-waters on contributing rivers is more attractive for a trip.

(IF YOU WANT TO GO BE AN EXPLORER IN THE AMAZON and immagine you are the first man to throw into some spot, then you should jump on those head-water excursions and bring back a good story to your buddies.)

In fact, those hooks we see advertized in promotions for exclusive access or unfished water, trying to sell us on more fish & possiable bigger Acu, are only that, A BAITED HOOK...!

After my plus 28 years of Tucano fishing in the Amazonas I promise you that the middle Rio Negro is the best fishery for more and larger Acu than all the headwaters COMBINED and you will be fishing for 3 times the quanity of fish per hectare, (or square area) than in any upper stream.

Remember Cichla Temenssis are travelers and yes SOMETIMES he may run up a stream, BUT he will go back to his comfortable zone and buddy Acu real quick, and the occasional BigDaddy up stream will be traveling pretty much alone up there.

Just saying fellows,

know your fish, know where and how he survives and you can turn fishing into more catching, with fun of 20/40 good fish-on fights per day, With a little luck and the correct conditions.

So if we had a better way to get ourselves into the fishery, at the right time and conditions...........why not?

Then we only have to shut down the commercial netting and God Damn soon, if we save Acu Fishing.

It takes 8 to 12 years for a 4 kilo Acu to reach 11 kilos, and that under the best of habitate and natural conditions, sooooo, no need to say more.

"WD" ::fisherman

There is nothing majic to this concept.

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Oi Alex...

Quanto mais pessoas de diferentes lugares escreverem no forum melhor...mais informacoes !!

seja hospitaleiro...

Fernando

Isso aí. ::tudo:: ::tudo::

Allen, além da tradução, poste o texto original em inglês, vai facilitar certamente! joia:::

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Oi Alex...

Quanto mais pessoas de diferentes lugares escreverem no forum melhor...mais informacoes !!

seja hospitaleiro...

Fernando

Isso aí. ::tudo:: ::tudo::

Allen, além da tradução, poste o texto original em inglês, vai facilitar certamente! joia:::

Falou tudo Alexandre, acho que em Ingles fica mais facil da gente ajudar, pois do jeito que esta parece o patropi falando :gorfei: :gorfei:

Abs,

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Bom, basicamente ele quer que as hospedagens sejam flexíveis de acordo com o nível das aguas e a temporada de pesca.

Ele fala que é duro marcar a pescaria e acertar todos os detales com um ano de antecedencia e ficar "amarrado" nesta data/reserva.

Diz que o hotel rio negro lodge está reabrindo sob nova direção, e que fica no médio rio negro, que talvez seja uma opção para funcionar neste sistema.

Ele diz que queria telefonar e saber sobre a altura da agua e piscosidade, pegar um avião ou fretar um e pescar a partir de manaus, num bass boat e ficar em um hotel confortável e a preço razoavel.

Fala que pela experiencia dele de 28 anos de pesca, os tucunas são peixas que se movimentam e vc pega muito mais no médio rio negro que nas cabeçeiras.

Desculpe aí pessoal, mas no geral é isso.

Vamos ver se mais alguém ajuda.

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Fiz uma tradução "marrom", como diria o Fernando Braga, para que mais pessoas possam participar.

Como no outro post do WDAllen (O do Rio Marie), volto a afirmar que não tenho nada a ver com isto. O objetivo foi só ajudar. Para separar do meu texto, mantive o texto dele em vermelho.

Pessoal, aqui está o que eu estava tentando dizer:

Eu acho que seria legal ter uma outra opção para viagens de pesca no Rio Negro. Agendar uma viagem, às vezes com até um ano de antecedência, e estar preso àquela semana pode ser terrível se o nível da água não está favorável.

Como é sabido, o Rio Negro Lodge Hotel no médio Rio Negro está reabrindo com novos donos, e talvez tenhamos outras opções de pacote de pesca.

Eu adoraria poder pegar o telefone, falar com o gerente de pesca e saber das condições de pesca a qualquer momento. Se a pescaria estivesse boa, eu gostaria de poder reservar os dias escolhidos por mim, e ir com meus parceiros de pesca para Manaus no dia seguinte ou na próxima semana. Nós poderíamos ir do Aeroporto Eduardo Gomes para o aeroporto do hotel em um voo charter, e no mesmo dia estar pescando num Bassboat. Nós poderíamos pescar ou relaxar pelo número de dias que nós quiséssemos ou pudéssemos.

Desta maneira eu não estaria preso a uma semana em que a pesca não fosse boa.

Eu e meus parceiros ficaríamos contentes em pagar um preço de Hotel Premium, desde que estivéssemos no controle das datas e do modo como nossa viagem de pesca seria.

Apenas um hotel administrado como hotel, com a capacidade de acomodar pescadores de todo o mundo, e provavelmente com preço razoável, poderia fazer isto.

Talvez alguém possa pensar que pescar nas cabeceiras dos rios ou nos afluentes é mais atrativo. (Se você quer ser um explorador da Amazônia, e imaginar que vc é o primeiro homem a pinchar num determinado ponto, então vc deve realmente ir num desses pacotes de cabeceira de rios, e trazer boas estórias para os seus amigos).

Na realidade, os anúncios que nós vemos, de acesso exclusivo a áreas sem pressão de pesca, tentando nos vender a possibilidade de maior quantidade e tamanho de acús são somente armadilhas (iscas para os tolos).

Após mais de 28 anos de experiência pescando com a Tucano, eu garanto a vocês que a chance de você pegar mais e maiores acús no médio Rio Negro é maior do que em qualquer cabeceira de rio, mesmo se comparado por hectare ou km quadrado.

O Cichla Temensis é um viajante, e às vezes ele podem subir contra a corrente, mas ele voltará para a sua zona de conforto. E um grande açu na cabeceira provavelmente estará viajando sozinho. O que estou tentando dizer é: conheça o seu peixe, saiba como e onde ele vive, e você poderá pegar mais peixes, com 20 a 40 boas brigas (fish on) por dia, apenas com um pouco de sorte e as condições corretas - fish on quer dizer peixe na linha / na isca, e não necessariamente embarcado.

Então, se nós tivéssemos uma outra opção para fazer a nossa viagem ao nosso gosto, no tempo certo e em condições adequadas, por que não?

Então o que temos que fazer é acertar os detalhes comerciais, e logo isto será possível, se nós preservarmos os acús (o sentido desta parte não ficou muito claro no texto original).

Leva 8 a 12 anos para um açu de 4 kg chegar a 11 kg, e isto nas melhores condições de habitat. Então, não há necessidade de dizer mais.

Não há nada mágico neste conceito.

WDAllen

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Ok folks, here is what I was saying in English;

I think it would be nice to have another option for fishing trips to the Rio Negro Amazonas.

Booking a trip, often a year in advance and being tied to that specific week can be terriable when water levels do not cooperate.

As most know the Old Rio Negro Lodge Hotel on the middle Negro is re-opening with new ownership soon and perhaps we may have other options.

I would love to be able to pick up the phone and call the fishing manager and talk to someone about the week and fishing conditions when ever I chose to do that.

If fishing was to my liking then I would like to be able to reserve the days which I want instantly and me and my fishing friends could get a flight from where ever into Manaus the following day or week?

Several local air charter planes could get me from Edwardo-Gomaz into the air port at my hotel that same day and we could be fishing from a bass-boat the same day.

I could stay and fish or relax for what ever days I choose then leave.

That way I am not stuck to a predetermined scedule when fishing is bad for whatever reason.

I & several friends would be happy to pay a slight premium hotel & hosting rate in order to be in control of when, and how my fishing trip is done.

Just a hotel ran like a hotel with a capacity to accomidate fishermen from Sept thru Mar???????? And hopefully at a reasonable rate.

YES some might say fishing the head-waters on contributing rivers is more attractive for a trip.

(IF YOU WANT TO GO BE AN EXPLORER IN THE AMAZON and immagine you are the first man to throw into some spot, then you should jump on those head-water excursions and bring back a good story to your buddies.)

In fact, those hooks we see advertized in promotions for exclusive access or unfished water, trying to sell us on more fish & possiable bigger Acu, are only that, A BAITED HOOK...!

After my plus 28 years of Tucano fishing in the Amazonas I promise you that the middle Rio Negro is the best fishery for more and larger Acu than all the headwaters COMBINED and you will be fishing for 3 times the quanity of fish per hectare, (or square area) than in any upper stream.

Remember Cichla Temenssis are travelers and yes SOMETIMES he may run up a stream, BUT he will go back to his comfortable zone and buddy Acu real quick, and the occasional BigDaddy up stream will be traveling pretty much alone up there.

Just saying fellows,

know your fish, know where and how he survives and you can turn fishing into more catching, with fun of 20/40 good fish-on fights per day, With a little luck and the correct conditions.

So if we had a better way to get ourselves into the fishery, at the right time and conditions...........why not?

Then we only have to shut down the commercial netting and God Damn soon, if we save Acu Fishing.

It takes 8 to 12 years for a 4 kilo Acu to reach 11 kilos, and that under the best of habitate and natural conditions, sooooo, no need to say more.

"WD" ::fisherman

There is nothing majic to this concept.

Hello WD,

I'm not sure if Jose Jorge speaks english but he might help you.

He Bought several Nitro Boats and he is building a hostel for fishermen.

The region in question is Barcelos where you can call and see if the conditions are favorable and set when you wish to go fishing, I'm also not sure if he can receive a group of fishermen.

His contact is 55 47 9771 7431 or personalfishing@hotmail.com

Regards,

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Ok folks, here is what I was saying in English;

I think it would be nice to have another option for fishing trips to the Rio Negro Amazonas.

Booking a trip, often a year in advance and being tied to that specific week can be terriable when water levels do not cooperate.

As most know the Old Rio Negro Lodge Hotel on the middle Negro is re-opening with new ownership soon and perhaps we may have other options.

I would love to be able to pick up the phone and call the fishing manager and talk to someone about the week and fishing conditions when ever I chose to do that.

If fishing was to my liking then I would like to be able to reserve the days which I want instantly and me and my fishing friends could get a flight from where ever into Manaus the following day or week?

Several local air charter planes could get me from Edwardo-Gomaz into the air port at my hotel that same day and we could be fishing from a bass-boat the same day.

I could stay and fish or relax for what ever days I choose then leave.

That way I am not stuck to a predetermined scedule when fishing is bad for whatever reason.

I & several friends would be happy to pay a slight premium hotel & hosting rate in order to be in control of when, and how my fishing trip is done.

Just a hotel ran like a hotel with a capacity to accomidate fishermen from Sept thru Mar???????? And hopefully at a reasonable rate.

YES some might say fishing the head-waters on contributing rivers is more attractive for a trip.

(IF YOU WANT TO GO BE AN EXPLORER IN THE AMAZON and immagine you are the first man to throw into some spot, then you should jump on those head-water excursions and bring back a good story to your buddies.)

In fact, those hooks we see advertized in promotions for exclusive access or unfished water, trying to sell us on more fish & possiable bigger Acu, are only that, A BAITED HOOK...!

After my plus 28 years of Tucano fishing in the Amazonas I promise you that the middle Rio Negro is the best fishery for more and larger Acu than all the headwaters COMBINED and you will be fishing for 3 times the quanity of fish per hectare, (or square area) than in any upper stream.

Remember Cichla Temenssis are travelers and yes SOMETIMES he may run up a stream, BUT he will go back to his comfortable zone and buddy Acu real quick, and the occasional BigDaddy up stream will be traveling pretty much alone up there.

Just saying fellows,

know your fish, know where and how he survives and you can turn fishing into more catching, with fun of 20/40 good fish-on fights per day, With a little luck and the correct conditions.

So if we had a better way to get ourselves into the fishery, at the right time and conditions...........why not?

Then we only have to shut down the commercial netting and God Damn soon, if we save Acu Fishing.

It takes 8 to 12 years for a 4 kilo Acu to reach 11 kilos, and that under the best of habitate and natural conditions, sooooo, no need to say more.

"WD" ::fisherman

There is nothing majic to this concept.

Hello WD,

I'm not sure if Jose Jorge speaks english but he might help you.

He Bought several Nitro Boats and he is building a hostel for fishermen.

The region in question is Barcelos where you can call and see if the conditions are favorable and set when you wish to go fishing, I'm also not sure if he can receive a group of fishermen.

His contact is 55 47 9771 7431 or personalfishing@hotmail.com

Regards,

Luizinho

Acho que ele está tentando oferecer um serviço deste tipo, e não procurando. Ele trabalha com pesca há muitos anos e mora na região. Se eu entendi bem ele tem alguma ligação com o pessoal da Tucano.

Abraço

Eufrásio

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Obrigado muitos companheiros,

Eu sei de JJ mas não o conheço personalmente.

Eu sei só referências boas a ele.

Eu estou esperando o reabrindo do Rio Negro Lodge será bom. ::tudo::

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